Payment for Placements (P4P): Drafting a Bill to Pay Social Work Interns

Social Work to Wealth Podcast • July 7, 2025

“How do you actually write a bill and get lawmakers to take it seriously? In this episode, we’re talking with Dan and Monique from Payment for Placements in New York, two social workers who helped draft and introduce a pilot bill to pay MSW interns in New York State. They walk us through the entire process, from gathering a team, to drafting the bill language, finding the right sponsors, and pitching their vision to legislators who can actually move it forward.

We get into the strategy behind the bill, how they used research, relationships, and persistence to build momentum, and what it took to balance bold ideas with political realities. This conversation is packed with insights for anyone who’s ever wondered how social workers can push for structural change from the ground up. If you’ve been curious about advocacy or shifting systems through policy, this episode is a powerful behind-the-scenes look at what that really looks like in action.”

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